TH may be experiencing a little bit of bullying again at school. There are signs. Yesterday, he got in the car, made some vague allusions to children saying "violent" things to him, and then proceeded to be off the hook for the rest of the day: vocalizing, nonstop movement, flapping, completely out of focus. Homework was quite an adventure.
He experiences bullying for the usual reasons, and he experiences the usual kinds of bullying. Sometimes, it's kids who "trick" him into doing something that he thinks he's doing for its inherent humor but that really is just making a fool out of him. Other times, it's more direct--taunting, threats, that kind of stuff.
So...and now this is about me...given my hyperawareness of bullying and my utter distaste for sadism of any kind, I'm a tad bemused by accusations of bullying I and others have been receiving over on a couple of BlogHer or BlogHer-related posts about vaccines. It's weird to me to be accused of bullying, and I honestly don't even understand how women interacting virtually, with me on one side and a handful on the other, can call anything about this situation "bullying." And how on God's green earth could I, by myself, or other posters, by themselves, be bullying them? I don't know. Where I come from, exchanges involving disagreement are just that: exchanges. Discussions. Conversations. I'm there contributing factual information (sure, I'm blunt, but not personal at all), making the occasional ironic aside. How does that perspective on my part or the part of anyone else cross the line into...bullying?
Curious about the accuracy of the accusations, I turned to Google U to find out what the expert and dictionary definitions of bullying are. I know it when I see it, but...what is it, really? Wikipedia tells us that, "Bullying is repeated acts over time that involves a real or perceived imbalance of power with the more powerful child or group attacking those who are less powerful." Um...nope. That doesn't fit.
An education site quotes Tattum and Tattum (1992; no idea who they are) as follows: "Bullying is the wilful, conscious desire to hurt another and put him/her under stress." Nope. That's not it, either. Hurting people is not my thing. Not even people I almost hate, and certainly not people I don't even know. This site goes on to say that "bullying occurs when there is an imbalance of power." Hmmm. Our powers all appear to be the same. We all seem to be cognitively functional, able to type, form sentences, argue, use the Internets.
Realpsychology.com defines bully thusly: "an intentional act of aggression, based on an imbalance of power, that is meant to harm a victim either physically or psychologically. Bullies usually operate alone or in small groups and choose to victimize individuals who they perceive as vulnerable." Again...no one involved here seems to be a vulnerable population. No one seems to be at some kind of disadvantage. In other words, we all seem to be fully capable. And on my part, at least, there is certainly a complete lack of intention. Yes, we are women arguing, something I've already addressed recently. But bullying? Oh, hell no.
Bullying, in my opinion, isn't a word to throw around lightly. It's serious. It demeans, it degrades, it demoralizes. It's power wielded sadistically against a weaker target, something any one of us has the capacity to do and the choice not to do. It's what happens to my son on the playground or at school or in the swimming pool or at birthday parties, targeted for his vulnerabilities in ways that give sadistic pleasure to the perpetrators. I know bullying when I see it, and sisters, this online exchange over vaccines ain't it.
Wednesday, November 4, 2009
Bullying?
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9 comments:
http://www.catherine-morgan.com/2009/11/02/swine-flu-h1n1-vaccine-pitting-mom-against-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-2255
Posted here noting it's not bullying to support and encourage vaccination. :-)
I read your posts at Blogher, and at this particular blog. Wow, you're such a bully. Not. So, folks who think vaccines are scary things get to call us sheoples, trolls, and now if we point out facts, we're magically bullies?
Hmmm.
On a side note, we're making a joyful noise at Countering today, posting something we love about our children or ourselves, something we take joy in. I hope you'll join us.
Kwombles...on my way over. Thanks for posting.
Just because you're not saying what great mommies they are; just because you're speaking more like, oh, Orac than someone on Mothering.com---that means "bullying." You're not thought to be playing "nice" and showing due, demure concern for your kids and the feelings of others (who have no trouble suggesting that any mothers who say they vaccinate their kids and think that the "science" of various organizations like DAN! and Generation Rescue is kind of suspect---that these sorts of mothers aren't really doing everything they can for their kids; heard that too many times about us with Charlie).
And I won't even start suggesting a certain "bully blogger" who has a lot of practice in making comments steeped in passive-aggressive innuendoes.
In debate, being right on matters of fact creates a power differential. The person who is wrong may feel compelled to abandon their position because they see that it is wrong. Subjectively, and if you only look at the power dynamics, this may feel like being bullied.
VAB, I thought of something along those lines. But then that would reduce every debate or discussion to a bullying/bullied scenario if the arsenals of facts supporting the stance are unequal. And I just don't think that between consenting adults (as we presumably are in an online forum like that...no one's forcing them to engage), there can be exchanges that reach to the level of bullying.
It is simple, Emily: in some circles, failing to agree with heartfelt opinions is bullying -- because the one failing to agree is "disrespecting emotion".
I think what I just wrote is what VAB and Kristina said, each more eloquently.
OK...this is going to come across as completely oblivious...but why should they expect a total stranger to "respect their emotion"? I respect their right to an opinion, and I don't mock their emotion (if I notice it at all). Why is there an expectation that someone's going to directly express respect for an emotion of someone they don't even know? That's an alien expectation to me, but I don't think it makes me...or anyone like me...a bully.
I'm sure that in the answer to this lie the answers to many things that have confused me through four decades.
I see your point in your last comment Emily. With vaccinations I tend to follow facts and not emotions. I think mothers tend to get quite carried away with their emotions at times and don't pay attention to the facts.
Marla, true. We all do that at some time or another. And I guess accusations of "bullying" like this are just another example of being emotional that way.
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